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Post by redneck joe on Nov 9, 2020 10:13:16 GMT
putting this up in the public area so I can send link to some friends. Thinking about doing an epoxy run in my latest project. More on that in a bit. I've done live edge things before as well as old oak and walnut barn wood but this is the first time I've had to deal with anything warped this much. I've realized the harder the wood the more likely for inconsistencies and warping>.
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Post by redneck joe on Nov 9, 2020 10:18:19 GMT
thought I could just run thru my planer but after a bit i realized that wasn't going to work. I had only spend time with two boards (I split these three to fit into planer). I have a hand joiner that I thought about using but the time involved with that would have ben quite a bit more that I wanted to invest in this. So - the internets of things taught me about a router sled. I've had a new router, in the box, for about five years. Thought I'd give it a shot. Had to get some bar clamps anyway as the ones I have are not large enough for this project. It mostly worked, and what didn't was due to my ignorance so next time will be easier / better results. Important thing is I now have one side good so I can finish other side in the planer - which is much more time efficient.
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Post by redneck joe on Nov 9, 2020 10:26:32 GMT
do not think this will be the final placement and of course the live edge (left) will be facing out.. Need to see how the grain looks when all planed out. Overall will be just under 7' long, width TBD depending on epoxy usage but thinking about 42" or so.
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Post by redneck joe on Nov 9, 2020 10:39:15 GMT
The markings on the wood from the router is (I think) due to one of my lessons learned - the sled was high enough that I had to extend the bit out so the shaft was bending into the rotation when in the wood. I'm sure there is a technical term for that, i call it bending.
This is the wood I'm using. I'll get some close ups as well so you can see all the little holes from the beetles.
Ambrosia Maple is a general term attached to a variety of Acer (true maple) species whose boards included colorful bug “trails” — caused by a fungus carried by the Ambrosia Beetle which penetrates the tree sap as the beetle eats into the tree, and it spreads both through the worm hole and up and down in the tree (carried along by the sap) and causes discoloring of the wood in streaks. The two primary species which draw the beetle’s attention are Acer Rubrum (Red Maple) and Acer Saccharum (Sugar Maple), although — with there reputedly being more than sixty different Acer species indigienous to North America — this unusual phenomenon is certainly not confined to just the two. Weight and density can vary greatly — depending upon the actual species — the typical varieties of maple figuring can also be present, often creating some very unique, visually spectacular specimens.
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Post by redneck joe on Nov 9, 2020 10:41:48 GMT
here is an internet pic of the holes. Mine are better.
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Post by redneck joe on Nov 9, 2020 11:01:19 GMT
Now, to the epoxy part. If anyone has input/experience/lessons learned that would be great.
Couple questions/thoughts:
I will be splining the pieces together (not biscuits) on all but the epoxy ones of course. I plan on using melamine with mold release and latex caulk. Also for the ends, may use window putty to create a dam rather than complete a box? I don't want to build a complete or partial box for the whole thing, just the area I want to pour. I know that has potential for disaster but I think I can redneck my way thru that.
I know the epoxy is supposed to become just part of the surface but can I also run a routed channel on the edges (yes even the live edge) to ass an epoxy spline of sorts? I'm not going to be using clear. I've not see thins on the interwebs so asking for input. On paper it makes complete sense.
Thinking about the color. Everyone does the river blue but A) that is not her style (doing for a friend) and B) I would want to practice more than I will on that style before committing to a full project like this. So I'm thinkin black or white. The black will compliment the beetle holes which I will also fill up and five the few softwood spots the same negative space look. I think also will work well with the finished wood (natural stain/hard wax/whatever I decide). The white would give a contrast and would use in the softwood sections but still tint the beetle holes black. Would that be odd? And if I go white, I'll probably do a glow in the dark.
Single or double pour? For sure double if going glow in the dark white but maybe either way since my lack of experience maybe can cover up some mistakes and see my thought above on the potential disaster - the loss would be mitigated. Also any tips on weather related concerns on the curing will be great.
So, these are my morning thoughts. Getting up at 2am gives one lots of time to ponder.
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Post by boatomy on Nov 10, 2020 3:30:54 GMT
and ramble
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Post by redneck joe on Nov 10, 2020 11:17:46 GMT
usually no time constraints on that
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Post by redneck joe on Dec 6, 2020 17:17:19 GMT
well, the garage heaters are doing their job, initial pour will happen soon. I'm doing two, about half inch each. First one will be my first ever but on paper it looks straightforward but if i've not sealed up properly I'll of only last $100 in epoxy, not $300.
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Post by kenergy on Dec 9, 2020 6:40:31 GMT
How do your last polish of the epoxy after sanding? My young fella is experimenting with carving and epoxy filling but doesnt know what to do after he sands it back and it's all milky looking.
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Post by redneck joe on Dec 9, 2020 10:37:52 GMT
not sure yet of actual, this is my first pour, the plan is a paste wax or something. I have some, its out in the garage, can't remember name at the moment. Have him go to youtube and watch blacktail studio videos. Also i've read where regular old poly as the final coat will work.
I'll put up pics as soon as imgur get fixed.
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Post by redneck joe on Dec 9, 2020 13:18:09 GMT
so here is the final layout. Markup the form to hold the pour with screws screws in caps to hold the epoxy in
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Post by redneck joe on Dec 9, 2020 13:21:44 GMT
all the undersides have latex caulk to keep anything from seeping out. so I did my 'test pour' in it but only filled about 3/8" deep in case A) it seeped out I wouldn't lose $400 in epoxy and B) to ensure it worked because if I needed to remove it would have been easier, and refer back to point A. I threw in some coins, a dollar bill and a Canadian $20 about halfway thru the cure. The coins sank which I did not think they would but its fine. I used clear on the test pour so I could see what was happening. The final pour will be black.
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Post by redneck joe on Dec 9, 2020 13:25:21 GMT
so... final pour tonight as the other has cured for the requisite 72 hours with no issues. I will be scuffing up the clear surface and the remaining exposed edge as epoxy apparently does not like to stick to epoxy when it is smooth. Wipes down with 100% alcohol and pour. Or so they say....
more news as it breaks.
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Post by redneck joe on Dec 9, 2020 13:29:47 GMT
forgot these. Cleaning up the soft wood and this is one of the two main ones. going to be cool in black. This is the largest and it kinda looks like Barkley and Kentucky lakes here is the lakes:
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